It lists 12x12 ceiling and wall tiles in Stevenson Hall as being ACM. But seems there is ample evidence out there to support a warning to clients. I’ve never personally had 12x12 ceiling tiles lab analyed. Hope everyone reading this has a great week! So again, the question is…Does anyone have any documentation that 12'x12' ceiling tiles may contain asbestos?.regardless of how they may be attached? Now, now Russel, thats not a very ‘outside the box’ kind of statement! Did you really mean to type that? Don’t you agree its good to challenge what we think we know? Critique our assumptions? Shouldn’t we always be thinking outside the box ? Whether its asbestos, mold, metal roofs or EIFS? Or do we just think outside the box when discussing marketing? I’m just trying to answer my own crazy little curiosity.Īsbestos-containing materials are not something that need to be thought about outside the box. Am I trying to set the HI industry on its ear? Not a chance. I was, and still am trying to document what I assumed was true. When I couldn’t find an answer, I threw it out on this board to my fellow HI’s. So I started to do some searching (books, texts, internet).

But you know what? I got a little curious about the smaller tiles because of the situation in my first post. You and I, and most everyone 2 weeks ago would have lumped all ceiling tiles together as probably containing asbestos. Now if I was haunted by all the 12'X12' 's that might have been wrongly tossed… that might be over thinking. I’ve spent maybe 10-15 minutes over the last few days bantering with my fellow HI’s on this board about the subject tiles. Hope I’m not frustrating you with this, but I don’t believe I’m over thinking this. Hey Russel, hope your having a good Sunday… I think that you are trying to overthink this. That’s why they are called asbestos-containing materials, such as Johns Manville Transite used on water heater and furnace flues, brake linings used on your car, vinyl flooring, acoustic ceiling tiles, etc. It’s okay to lump all asbestos-containing materials together since they all contain asbestos. That’s why I was doing fundraising-unexpected expenses. When I was doing fundraising for the Houston Symphony and Houston Grand Opera, both of them were in the process of replacing the asbestos acoustic panels (and tiles in the bathrooms and lounge areas) with new stuff. Acoustic ceiling tiles are quite common in residential construction up to 1979. Those were commercial applications, though. Most concert halls prior to 1979 had acousting panels on the ceilings and walls.

In all the surfing of the internet I’ve done on asbestos content, I haven’t been able to find any mention of 12'x12' ceiling tiles being grouped with t-bar/drop ceiling panels.Īsbestos not only was a very good insulating material, but it was a very good “acoustic” material, as well. Your definition of ‘acoustic’ seems to lump t-bar/drop ceiling panels (2’x2’ and 2’x4’) with a 12'x12' ceiling panel. They actually look like the commercial type that were used in hardware and appliance stores like Kingsville Hardware and the Kingsville Ben Franklin Five & Dime store in Kingsville, Texas, when I was growing up. The picture you posted in #10 looks like common acoustic ceiling tiles that were used heavily in the late 1950s through the mid-1970s, possibly all the way up to 1979. How they were attached is not a key point. The two keys for your situation are (1) acoustic ceiling tile and (2) in an old house. I’m not familiar with any “acoustic” ceiling tile (acoustic meaning “approximately 12” x 12', which is what they were called in the industry), manufactured prior to 1979 that did not have asbestos in it. If there is no documented proof of asbestos in these common tiles, why attach an asbestos disclaimer in the report? It is just as important to know when not to use a disclaimer concerning a ‘hot issue’ such as asbestos as it is to use a disclaimer properly. Please read my original post…Actually you are correct and I agree with you in this respect: It doesn’t matter whether the things are screwed, nailed, glued, bolted, or welded to the ceiling…that isn’t the issue!ĭoes anyone know if the common, interlocking ceiling tiles that are approximately 12' x 12' (which by the way, are usually STAPLED in my area) have any documented history of containing asbestos?

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